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PočaljiNaslov: Sekte   12/4/2008, 02:33

Juce mi na vraat zakucase Jehovini svedoci. Da li ste imali kontakata sa sektama i kako ste reagovali? Da li poznajete nekog clana neke sekte i kakva su vam iskustva.

Najagresivnija sekta su Jehovini svedoci. Evo jednog njihovog teksta.



TOLERIŠE POLNI NEMORAL: U zapadnim zemljama, neke crkve postavljaju homoseksualce za sveštenike i pokušavaju da utiču na vlade da zakonom dozvole brakove među pripadnicima istog pola. Čak i crkve koje osuđuju nemoral tolerišu religiozne vođe koje seksualno zlostavljaju decu. Međutim, šta Biblija naučava? Ona jasno kaže: „Ne zavaravajte se! Ni bludnici, ni idolopoklonici, ni preljubnici, ni muškarci koji se upuštaju u neprirodne odnose, ni muškarci koji ležu s muškarcima... neće naslediti Božje kraljevstvo“ (1. Korinćanima 6:9, 10). Da li su vam poznate neke religije koje tolerišu polni nemoral?

Kakva je budućnost religija koje donose loš plod? Isus je upozorio: „Svako drvo koje ne donosi dobar plod seče se i baca u vatru“ (Matej 7:19). Zaista, kriva religija će biti uništena! Međutim, kako će se to desiti i kada? Odgovor nam pruža jedna proročanska vizija zabeležena u biblijskoj knjizi Otkrivenje, u 17. i 18. poglavlju.

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   12/4/2008, 02:38

nemam nikakvo iskustvo sa sektama ......zalupim vrata .....i to je to.......samo se labilne osobe navlače na neke gluposti.......
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   12/4/2008, 03:27

Jedino sto je meni stalo, je da se vera, bilo crkvena ili sektaska, nedvosmisleno odvoji od politike i uprave drzavom.

Verujem u Boga, ali ne verujem ni jednoj crkvi!
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   12/4/2008, 06:50

Ma zajebite sekte poceo rat!
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   15/4/2008, 06:29

Da,meni su proshle godine isto doshle neke 2 zavijene kurve pitale me jesam li chitao sveto pismo,i dale mi Kule strazare da chitam ja sam naravno sve to oterao u..
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   15/4/2008, 07:57

"Satanism", is the worship and imitation of the biblical Satan or Lucifer. It is the antithesis of Judaism and Christianity. Satan is referred as the brother of Christ, the one who was cast out of heaven, and whom the Satanists worship. Condemned by the Bible and the Church, see The Occult

- The "emblem", is a pentagram, like the one of witchcraft, but inverted, with the face of Satan on it. It is not witchcraft, although in practice the edges of Satanism and Witchcraft are blurred.

- The "credo", is summed up in "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law", coined by Crowley in "The Book of the Law".

There are two kinds of Satanism:

1- Those who believe that Satan exists and is a powerful force... with animals and children sacrificed to worship him and get his favors, and the Black Mass as the main rite.

2- Those who believe that Satan does not exist, but it is merely the symbol or personification of fleshy human desires and appetites... and they try to imitate it, with all kind of sins, pleasures and selfishness, lying, steeling, killing...

Categories of Satanists:

There are not many Satanists, may be less than 10,000 in the world!... only curiosity and sensationalism pays them much attention, and the actual satanic activity has been greatly exaggerated.

But there are several categories:

1- Group secretive Satanists: They believe that Satan really exists.

- The "Traditional", hate Christianity, celebrate the Black Mass, in the cup they drink blood of a sacrificial animal or human, to mimic the Mass.

- "Nontraditional", from Neo-Platonism, Eastern Mysticism, and Islam, or off-shots of the Kabbalah, Theosophy, Rosicrucianism, Freemasonry... the "blood" they drink is not necessarily a parody of the Catholic Mass, but to partake of the "fire energy" that blood provides.

2- Public Church Satanists:

No secret, hold worship services open to the public, based mostly on the writings of Anton LaVey's "Satanic Bible", and they believe that Satan is a symbolic force: The Church of Satan of LaVey, Temple of Set. The Church of Thelema of Crowley, the Order of the Golden Down, and derivations of the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO), may also be included in this category.

3- Youth Gang Satanists, that may or may not believe that Satan exists: "Dabblers" who see Satanism as a symbol of rebellion against any authority. For most, interest in Satanism is a passing fad influenced by drugs, sex, and rock-and-roll, but with serious consequences, like in the spectacular case of Charles Mason, or Andrew Newell who stabbed his mate to death, or Peter McKenzie who sexually abused 13 children.

4- Individual Satanists, often disturbed individuals, neurotic or psychotic, like most Satanists!.

Morality of Satanism:

"Do what you will" is the general principle. What is "bad" in the Bible becomes "good"; sin!, and Satan will be with you!... they call it "freedom of choice"; they believe to get powers to perform magic by doing evil acts.

- At the low level, they burn crosses, spray Satanic graffiti, dig up graves...

- A higher level is by burning churches, doing all kind of sexual aberrations, steeling, drugs...

- Children sexual abuse is a higher level... and, of course, the ultimate evil is "killing", children or adults, the greatest release of magical energy.

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This is the ultimate rite for a real Satanist to obtain magic powers: A blasphemous Mass, where the altar is a nude woman, and the vagina is the tabernacle. If possible, a real Host stolen from a Catholic Church is placed in the vagina in the midst of reciting distorted psalms with hot music and all kind of obscenities, coursing Jesus and honoring Satan. The fake priest ends up having real sex, with the Host still in the vagina.

... If a baby can be slaughtered during the ritual, they will drink his blood and eat his flesh, to mimic the most the Eucharist...

. .. Ideally, a Black Mass is to be celebrated by a "real heretic Priest", that, even in sin, can celebrate Mass effectively.

- The prayers end with the strongest expression of Satanism: "Shemhaforash", the word pronounced by God when he created the World, and, while spitting on a cross or stepping on it, they all cry out "Hail, Satan".

. .. And, of course, it may end up with a sexual orgy with all kind of abominations and abuses, under the influence of drugs.

Groups of Satanists Today:

1-The "Traditional Secretive Satanists":

They are the "real thing", with the Black Mass, and their number is unknown, though it is estimated in "hundreds" in the world.

2- The "Non-Traditional" Satanists:

These believe that Satan exists, honor him, pray to him, but the celebrations are very different in each group.

3- "Aleister Crowley", (1875-1947) never considered himself a Satanist, but his writings, "The Book of the Law" and "The Equinox" became the basis for modern Satanism. In 1920 he founded an "Abbey of Thelema" in Cefalu, Sicily, considered Satanism, to destroy Christianity. It was brought to America by Jack Parsons who blew up himself experimenting with drugs. Crowley did in England what LaVey did in America, he became a drug addict, and his son mysteriously died during a private ritual that only the two attended. Afterward, Crowley became a babbling, incoherent idiot. A Black Mass was performed at his funeral.

4- "Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO)", emphasizes sexual magic. Some derivative satanic groups have come forth from OTO in America: OTO, in Fort Myers, Florida; in Dublin, California; Ordo Templi Astarte (O.T.A.), or Church of Hermetic Science; Bennu Phoenix Temple of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Down...

5- The Church of Satan:

Founded, by Anton S. LaVey in San Francisco, California, in 1966, on Walpurgisnach or April 30, the most celebrated feast of the Witchcraft.

- LaVey, appeared as the Devil in the film "Rosemary's Baby", and was technical director of another film, "The Devil's Rain". His most famous disciple was Sammy Davis Junior, who later regretted experimenting with Satanism. Film star Jaine Mansfield was also a member of the Church of Satan, which has an estimated 5,000 members.

- On "The Satanic Bible", the "9 Satanic Statements" claim that "Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence". Represents materialism, instead of pipe dreams. Vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek. Satan represents man as just another animal, more often worse, the most vicious animal of all!.

... "Here and now is our day of joy", proclaims, "eye for eye, tooth for tooth, aye four-fold, a hundred fold!"... kindness to those who deserve it, but if you want to kill them, do it!, morally or physically, because the main doctrine is "do what you want".

- It falls in the category of "public Satanism", with a symbolic Satan... but in the rites, "a nude woman" is the altar... and that's non only symbolic!.

- In the prayers, Satan is invoked and honored, and Jesus Christ is cursed... and that's not jut a symbol!... 19 prayers are recited in "enochian language", a kind of old Arabic not spoken by anyone, and some of them end with this English translation: "Be friendly unto me, for I am the same!- the true worshiper of the highest and ineffable King of Hell".

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   15/4/2008, 07:57

- In "The Satanic Rituals", there are some of the highly offensive and blasphemous words for a Black Mass: "Thou, thou who, in my capacity of Priest, I force, weather thou wilt or no, to descend into this host, to incarnate thyself into this bread Jesus, artisan of hoaxes, bandit of homages, robber of affection- hear!... O lasting foulness of Bethlehem, we would have thee confess thy impudent cheats, thy inexplicable crimes!. We would drive deeper the nails into thy hands, press down the crown of thorns upon thy brow, and bring blood from the dry wounds...

... cursed Nazarene, abstractor of stupid parities, impotent king, fugitive god!... O Infernal Majesty, condemn him to the pit, evermore to suffer in perpetual anguish. Bring Thy wrath upon him, O Prince of Darkness..."

... But what is more scary, is to think that every time "we sin", you and I, "we crucify again the Son of God, making a public mockery of Him" (Hebrews 6:6)... my be LaVey is right in something!... when we sin, you and I, are worse than animals, the most vicious animals of all!... may Jesus have mercy of all of us!. Thank you, glorious Jesus, my Redeemer, the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords... and in the name of Jesus Christ I order Satan to get out of the heart of any Satanist or Witch who may read these lines. Thank you, dear Jesus, the King of Glory, you are dethroning Satan from many hearts every day, right now!. Praise to you, Jesus of Nazareth, the only one God, to whom is all the praise and glory and honor for ever and ever. Amen.

6- "Temple of Set":

It is an offspring of LaVey's Church of Satan, founded in 1975 by US Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino, with 1,000 members. The name "Set" comes from the Egyptian god Set-Ham. It claims to be more moral than the Church of Satan!... but Aquino maintains an avid interest in Nazi culture, and Nazi insignia are occasionally worn by members of the Temple.

- It has a functioning British branch, with only 55 members, but well organized: David Austern sits in his word processor and instructions zip to and fro across the Atlantic. The "Temple" is a black fabric-lined garage, with black carpet and a black-draped altar decorated with black candles and a plastic skull. Austern is a homosexual.

7- "The Society of the Dark Lily", is run by a women who suffers from multiple sclerosis. The farm in Scotland where she lives is the headquarters of the organization, and the scene of debauched, sadistic beating of naked young girls.

8- "Young Gang Satanists":

Teenage dabblers is the third category of Satanists mentioned, and probably the largest.

Adolescents, are notoriously easily bored, perpetually on a quest for the different. They are naturally curious about spiritual matters, and are likely to rebel against the conventions of their upbringing. The occult, and especially its false promise of powers to change both themselves and the world, is a compelling lure, and there are "many points of entry" of Satan:

1- "A Friend", is the main "point of entry" of Satan: Many teenagers become "rebels" against their parents and the establishment, but "slaves" to their friends:

If the friend uses pants with a hole in the back, he is got to use it!... if he is on the occult, he is got to try it, and be even more daring!...

2- "Fantasy Games", are also good points of entry: of Satan Ouija, Tarot Cards, Dungeons and Dragons (D and D)... This one, the respectable D and D, is very dangerous: You don't need boards, only a pencil, paper, and your imagination. Each player assumes the identity of a character of his choice, he becomes an "actor", and so familiar with the character, that he may end up becoming one with him... most characters worship a deity, and some of them can cast spells and do magic...

Don't get into these apparent respectable games. They may look harmless fun... but many have end up in sexual abuse, insanity, suicide, murder... and they are an easy point of entry into the dabbling Occult and Satanism...

3- "Heavy Metal Music", is another good route into the Occult and Satanism, and into death and suicide: Among the songs that blatantly proselytize Satanic rituals and the Occult, are:
- "Show no Mercy", by Kerr King, who shuts out, "in Lord Satan we trust".
- "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath", by Black Sabbath.
- "Shout at the Devil", by Motley Crue.
- "Holy Hell" by Possessed, with references to defiled crosses, black masses, magic, and ends up with "kill the people, cut the heads, cut the throats".
- Ozzy Osbourne, in "Suicide Solution".
- "Kill 'Em All", by Metallica.
- The groups Judas Priest, KISS, Iron Maden...

4- "Adults", also actively recruit youngsters into the Occult and Satanism, with the lure of free drugs, drink and promiscuous sex...

Satanism in the "Catholic Church"?:

Satan attacks the Church from "without" (1 Peter), and from "within" (2 Peter). There is a kind of Satanism when someone proclaims in the Church:
- The Bible is "not" the word of God.
- A person called "Satan" does not exist.
- We do not have to accept the teachings of the Church or the Pope on matters of faith and morals
- Christ did not resurrected physically.
- Jesus in not really present in the Eucharist.
- Fornication, adultery, abortion, homosexual relations, masturbation is not always wrong.
- If you have a "mortal sin", you do not have to confess before receiving the Holy Eucharist.

... These "Satanic doctrines" are taught in some Catholic seminaries, universities, work-shops, and have found the way in some textbooks and pulpits.



4- Fetishes, Talismans, Amulets, Charms, Superstitions, Potions, Curses, Spells, Magic Prayers, Spoils (In Spanish: Despojos, Riegos, Velaciones).

This is the fourth group of "Magic".

- Some of them may look harmless, but all of them are to honor the Devil and trust in him, not in God!, and that's why the Bible condemns all of them as "prostitution against God" (see Occult)

...There is much "ignorance" on this, not usually malice... but if you drink a poison by ignorance, you are going to die, even without malice... and in the name of Jesus Christ I order the Devil to get out of any person who reads these lines and is wearing or practicing any of the above... Thank you, Jesus, I praise you, because you are enlightening and delivering many people every day... right now!.

- "Fetish": A Portuguese word meaning "enchantment", is an object or potion or writing given by a witch with false magic powers.

- "Talisman": An Arabic word, "tilsman", meaning "magnet of power", is an object held to have magical or protective powers: A rock, a crystal, a metal, a doll, a cloth... a ring, a bracelet, a chain... throw them away!... Trust in Jesus!... get a crucifix... the rings, bracelets, and colors of Astrology honor Satan... those wore just for adornment or therapy have nothing to do with this.

- "Amulet": An Arabic word, "hamelet", which means "hanging": It is like a talisman against evil or injury, or for good luck: A medal with a chain around the neck, a stone hanging in the neck, a pendent... the difference between an "Amulet" and a "Christian Medal", is that the Amulet honors Satan and his Demons, placing the trust in them, while the Christian Medal honors God and his Saints, placing the trust in them...

... The Astrological or Santeria medals honor the Devil... through them away, ware instead a medal of Jesus or his Mother, or any real Christian Saint... the Astrological or Santeria collars, honor Satan... get rid of them!... ware instead a Christian Rosary.

- "Charm": A small ornament worn on a chain or bracelet. When worn for its purported magical or luck effects, they are of Satan, like any amulet or talisman.

- "Superstition": It is a believe, practice, or rite, that is maintained despite evidence that it is unfounded or irrational... we all know about them... forget them!, don't place your life on an irrational chance or magic, place it in the hands of the real God... trust in God!.

-"Potions", "Spells", "Curses", "Magic Prayers":

... Already commented in "Magic"... they are all of Satan!... A "Christian Prayer" is more powerful than all the prayers of the Witches and Satanists and Santeros put together, because a Christian Prayer has the power of God, who is a million times more powerful and wise than Satan, in whom the prayers of the Witches and Satanists and Santeros are based... and if someone places a "curse" on you, don't be afraid, just an Our Father, or a Hail Mary is more powerful than all the curses put together!... they can't even touch you!... you just live in the "grace of God", not in "sin"!...

... If you live "in sin", Satan lives in you!, and he is going to destroy you by any of his thousand ways... if you live "in grace", God lives in you, and you are going to have in this life all his reaches and protection, Satan can't touch you...

- It is almost blasphemous just to compare them, but the "Eucharist" is more powerful and holy than all the "potions" ever made by all the witches in the world put together... Jesus is in love with you... let yourself be loved... he is waiting for you every day in the Eucharist (Matt.6:11, Jn.6:53).

- "Spoils": In Spanish: "Velaciones", "Despojos", "Riegos"...:

-"Velaciones": "Vela" means "candle"; the client is placed on the floor surrounded by candles to keep vigil over him until the candles extinguish, while praying or making curses.

-"Despojos" and "Riegos", are the work of Santeria:

... The "Despojos", are baths taken daily with herbs given by the Santero after using the snail shells divination. The ... "Riegos", is to fill the home with smoke and odors from incense to cast out curses or any bad influence on the home.

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PočaljiNaslov: dao sam malo teksta o satanizmu   15/4/2008, 07:58

Inace se grozim sekti i sve bi ih nabio na kolac

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   15/4/2008, 09:25

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ja nista vise ne treba da dodam na ovo..
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   16/4/2008, 02:59

neverovatno je to da je kraj iz koga dolazim(o),poznat po sektama svih vrsta,a da ja ne poznajem skoro ni jednog pripadnika.Da li se kriju,ili šta?
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   17/4/2008, 05:29

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   17/4/2008, 05:39

Nisam prochitao ovaj gore gigantski post, samo sam se nasmejao kad su spomenuli hevi metal muziku, i fantasy games...
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   17/4/2008, 21:32

Pogledajte sta sam nasao na netu:

``EEEee evo jos jedne price, iz mog zivotnog dosijea X. Naime moram zastiti jehovne svedoke koji se pominju u ovoj prici, pa cemo tako bez imena. Radi se o jednoj porodici iz obrenovca, cela je zagrizena. Ja sam isao kod tog decka da uzmem neke jumpere za hard disk. Otvara mi njegov otac vrata, i satro, doticni nije tu ali udji da ga sacekas. Ja rekoh sebi, aj nije problem sacekacu ga 15 min. AAaaa kajanje na samom ulazu, zidovi puni ikona pastira i nekih ovcica... Zaledio sam se, zato sto sam znao sta me ceka, sad ce da me uhvate da mi rolaju pricu kako je religija spas za mene...
Ovaj poceo da me ispituje, gde zivim sta radim, a ja budala sve odgovaram iskreno, uplasio se neverovatno, on i zena ubacili me u masinu, samo sam razmisljao kako cu da izadjem na vrata.
Dosao je i taj tren, ja se izvinjavam sa pricom da moram da idem, oni kao, nema problema ostavi nam ti tvoj broj valda ce te okrenuti, a ja kazem, pa vi nemate telefon, on ce meni, ma snaci ce Vlada. Dam im i telefon oni meni jabuku. Uzeo sam je u ruku zahvalio i bukvalno potrcao. Cim sam izasao iz zgrade ispred mene se nalazio kontejner, I SADA, bacam jabuku ona se odbija od kontejner pada meni ispod noge i ja padam!!
I sad da kazes da nema necega gore... ``
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   17/4/2008, 21:35

``Gluvo doba noci. Odblesci sveca koji se vide kroz prozore i poluotvorena vrata crkve nagovestavaju da je sluzba u toku. To je pomalo neobicno, jer datum u kalendaru ne ukazuje da je u pitanju neki crkveni praznik sa nocnim bdenjem. Blizi pogled otkriva da je u pitanju ritual, ali neocekivan, koji se ne odvija u skladu sa hriscanskim bogosluzenjem. Na zidu visi raspece Hristovo okrenuto naglavacke. Po podu, oko oltara, leze polomljeni krstovi, ikone su poskidane sa zidova i razbacane, ikonostas
razvaljen, svetlo potice od naopako okrenutih sveca, a na oltaru lezi gola devojka, rasirenih nogu kojoj se iznad glave nalazi slika djavola sa glavom jarca ili vola. Sluzbu vodi, jer ocito je da se desava “crna misa”, covek obucen u crno, koji izmedju devojackih nogu drzi hvalospev u cast djavola, uz podrsku ostalih prisutnih satanista. Zapravo, cela sluzba za svoju sustinu ima izvrnut ritual hriscanskog bogosluzenja. Na kraju, da bi sve bilo dosledno izokrenuto do kraja, umesto celivanja oltara- casne trpeze, “svestenik” seksualno celiva golu devojku, sto posle njega cine i svi muski ucesnici koji to mogu i zele, a sve je to samo uvod u opstu orgiju ucesnika. Da bi, na taj cin, ostala trajna uspomena na ucinjeno delo, sve crkvene knjige se raskupusavaju i naliju uljem i vodom. Prema opisu, ovo je zapisnik iz spisa inkvizicije, iz vremena mracnog srednjeg veka, koji se odnosi na priznanje iznudjeno pod mukama od nesrecnika optuzenih da su vesci ili vestice. Moguce je tako|e, da to predstavlja istrgnut deo sinopsisa scenarija iz savremene holivudske produkcije horor filmova. Medjutim, dogadjaji govore da ovo nisu magnovenja iz zaboravljenih delova mracne proslosti i rezultat necije bolesne maste, nego da se odigrava ovde i sada, u jednoj zemlji lakovernih i pretezno religiozno nepismenih na brdovitom Balkanu, na samom kraju XX veka. Ako se za mesto dogadjanja navede Trstenik, Zajecar, i poneko drugo mesto u Srbiji, gde se to takodje desilo, ali nije propraceno informacijama u stampi, nece se pogresiti, naprimer, samo crkva u Zajecaru je na opisan nacin u periodu od zadnjih cetiri godine oskrnavljena vise desetina puta, a da uglavnom nisu uhvaceni pocinioci. Pojava satanista i njihovih crnomagijskih rituala u ovoj zemlji neminovno namece i otvara brojna pitanja, pri cemu ne postoji na sva odgovarajuci odgovor, a odgovori na pojedina pitanja otkrivaju da je od strane mnogih drzavnih organa izrazena nesposobnost, neodgovornost, nemoc, neznanje, ili cak i nesto mnogo gore, da se pojavama ove vrste stane na kraj ili da se mozda sprece vec na samom nastajanju. Teror koji sprovode satanisti nad svojom okolinom spada u kategoriju terorisanja nemocne vecine od strane organizovane manjine, gde naizgled, ne postoji zakonski nacin, ili volja da se to prekine.``
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   20/5/2008, 07:31

... sto bih Mrgud iz Strumfova rekao .... MRZIM SEKTE !!!
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   30/5/2008, 02:23

I ti si onda sektaš(sekta koja mtrzi sekte).
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   2/6/2008, 08:19

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I ti si onda sektaš(sekta koja mtrzi sekte).

... mene se i sekte plase ... ti to znas ...
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   17/6/2008, 07:41

ah da,ima posebna sekta koja se plasi VacDija, pirate laugh 2
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   17/6/2008, 07:43

Ma nema sekti u Vrscu ?!?! Mi smo fin narod. 🐘

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   19/6/2008, 07:48

nas to zaobilazi

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   22/6/2008, 03:08

vi ste onda clanovi sekte koja tvrdi da nema sekti u vasem gradu, 🐘 .
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   29/6/2008, 12:04

da mi smo ta sekta

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   7/7/2008, 04:47

evo sta sam ja dobio:




Kao prosečni stanovnik hrišćanskog sveta svako se bar jednom u životu susreo sa pričama o ljudima koji "štuju" đavola, po Bibliji, prognanog anđela koji je bio grešnik. Sa tim pojmom ljudi obično poistovećuju sve one koje ne razumeju i koji se na prvi pogled čine drugačijim. No, ljudi koji sebe smatraju Satanistima ne vide celu sliku kao i hršćani. Njihova priča je poprilično nerazumna te joj fale osnove i dokazi, no zar ne fale i Bibliji? Ovo je samo prikaz priče iz drugog ugla:



Kroz Oci Sataniste

Spiritualni Satanizam, etiketiran kao "Tradicionalni Satanizam" razlikuje se od Lavejanskog Satanizma, u smislu da smo mi svesni postojanja Satane/Lucifera kao stvarnog bića. Mi NISMO ateisti! Pored ogromnih razlika, Crkva Satane, osnovana 1966, od strane Antona Šandora Laveja, koja trenutno zauzima ateistički stav, i smatraju sebe Bogovima. Oni obožavaju sebe. Mnogo tradicionalnih Satanista obožava Satanu/Lucifera. Neki ga smatraju za prijatelja i ne obožavaju ga, drugi samo priznaju njegovu egzistenciju. Poštuje se individualnost i lični izbor. Odnos čoveka sa Luciferom zavisi od individue, jer Satanizam ceni slobodnu misli i individualnost.
Satanizam nije hrišćanski pronalazak. On nema svoje korene u hrišćanstvu. Hrišćanstvo je izokrenulo i izobličilo sve iz starih religija. Koreni Satanizma su u starom Egiptu i Sumeriji/Mesopotamiji. Stari Bogovi su ovde da nam pomognu. Oni su postali Đavoli da bi opstali.


Zasto Lucifer?

Lucifer je najmoćniji Bog. On je isto veoma prijateljski naklonjen ka ljudima, kao suprotnost onome šta piše u horor pričama koje serviraju hrišćani, religije "beloga svetla" i njihovi poklonici. Po Satanizmu, hrišćanske laži imaju svrhu da zarobe ljude, i da ih stave pod kontrolu zajedljivog, besnog i pakosnog bića kojeg hrišćani obožavaju. Satanisti veruju da Hrišćanski Bog mrzi čovečanstvo. Javeh/Jehova (hrišćanski Bog) nije imao ništa sa kreacijom čovečanstva. Bivše božanstvo Ugarita, on je El-ov sin, i Zemlja je pripala njemu posle odluke Bogova. Sedam kojih odlučuju. On se borio sa bogom Baalom i pobedio ga. On je "tiranin koji vlada gvozdenom pesnicom". Satanisti propovedaju da je hrišćanski Bog mrzi ljude, sa stavom: "Hrišćanska Biblija je puna kletvi, kazni, masovnih ubistva i mučenja, sva ova su usmerena ka čovečanstvu. Imao je svog sina, u ljudskog formi, mučenog i zakucanog za krst. Ako ovo radi svome sinu, da li ti je ikada palo na pamet šta bi uradio tebi? Ovo je ljudska žrtva ukoliko ih je i bilo. Njegovi sledbenici su nesrećni i tužni. Neuka, siromašna tinejdžerka, majka njegovog kopila, putovala je milje i milje na magarcu, u zadnjim stadijumima svoje trudnoće. Ovo biće nije imalo ni malo uljudnosti, da obezbedi odgovarajući zaklon ovoj mladoj devojci, jer su krčme bile prepune. Ona je donela ovo kopile na svet, u staroj i hladnoj štali, kao životinju."
Po njima, Lucifer je pravi prijatelj čovečanstva. On nas ojačava, ispunjava svoja obećanja, on je dosledan i brižan. Lucifer hoće od nas da postanemo kao Bogovi, dok drugi žele da nas porobe. Postoje zabeleške o Luciferovom posećivanju. Za razliku od hrišćanskog Boga, Lucifera se ljudi boje, zato što on donosi. Kada mi odlazimo kod Lucifera mi dobijamo rezultate. Postoji stara izreka koja govori: "Pakao je vrlo darovit". Lucifer podržava snagu, moć i pravdu. On nam pokazuje da NIJE OKEJ da zloupotrebljavamo. On nam pokazuje da smo mi bića, koja zaslužuju zadovoljstvo, sreću i bolji život. Strana koja se prikazuje je ta da je Lucifer veliki oslobodilac čovečanstva.


Ko je Lucifer?

Po verovanju satanističke religije, sumerski Bog, EA/ENKI je Lucifer. On je vrhovni BOG, ne anđeo! On je bio oklevetan vekovima sa obmanama i lažima. Većina ljudi ne zna Lucifera. Oni veruju u sve što im je rečeno bez ikakvog pitanja. Strah je moćan alat koji je korišćen kroz vekove da bi držao čovečanstvo dalje od Lucifera. Lucifer je isto i najbrilijantniji od Bogova. On je pravi Otac i kreator čovečanstva. On je isto vladao Egiptom pod imenom PTAH. ENKI znači Gospodar/Vladalac Zemlje. On je isto poznat kao Vodonoša iz znaka Vodolije. 11. znak Zodijaka. Jedan od Luciferovih brojeva je 11. Ovo može da se pronađe kroz istraživanje stare mitologije. Satan/Enki je osnovao Stari egipatski Red Zmije, tačnije, Bratstvo Zmije. Vekovima, ova učenja su bila korumpirana i više nisu nalik originalnim doktorinama. Ovaj Red je imao zadatak da čovečanstvu donese Božansko znanje i moć. Arheolozi su pronašli mnoštvo tabela, iz predela koji je poznat kao kolevka čovečanstva na bliskom istoku. One otkrivaju da je Ea/Enki, Gospodar Zemlje, čiji su simboli zmija i trozubac, stvorio čovečanstvo od evoluiranih primata koristeći spermu Bogova i jajašce primata. Mi nismo evoluirali prirodno. Ovo je razlog zbog kojeg mi lako oboljevamo, za razliku od životinja koje imaju bolje zdravlje. Lucifer je hteo da nas napravi savršenima, ali je zaustavljen da to učini od strane drugih Bogova.
Reč "Satan" na Hebrejskom znači protivnik i pobunjenikl (može ga se zamisliti kao tmurnog dečka u crnom u zadnjoj klupi u razredu). Svaki Bog koji se suprostavio hrišćanskom Bogu Jehovi, bio je žigosan i oklevetan. Satana/Lucifer, nije samo Hebrejska mitološka figura. On je postojao i pre religije Jevreja. Hrišćanska Biblija je osnovana na Sumerskoj/Mesopotamskoj mitologiji. "Lucifer," doslovno znači "Svetleći", "Donosilac Svetla", "Donosilac Znanja" i "Sin zore". Satan/Lucifer je poznat kao Bog pobunjenik, Bog koji je čovečanstvu doneo znanje, da bi ga uzdigao iznak nivoa životinje. Lucifer, zajedno sa Belzebubom, Aštarot, Azazelom, Belijalom, Mamonom i drugim Bogovima pobunio se zarad čovečanstva. Bili su nadbrojani to je razlog zbog kojeg su izgubili rat. Ovo se desilo posle toga kada je Zemlja bila predata mlađim Bogovima. Mlađi Bogovi nemaju poštovanje za čovečanstvo, i kao Jehova, oni su ludi za moći, nemarni i oholi. Svi Đavoli i Demoni su stari Bogovi. Gradovi, biblioteke i drugi izvori znanja su bili uništavani u pokušaju da unište sve i svo znanje o Starim Bogovima. Svi bogovi koji su učestvovali, oženili ili se sprijateljili sa čovečanstvom su bili prokleti i proterani od strane drugih Bogova.
Bogovi su vanzemaljska humanoidna rasa bića, od kojih je Lucifer Vrhovni i sveprisutan. U hrišćanskoj Bibliji, Bogovi su poznati pod imenom Nefilimi. Ova bića su vrlo evoluirana, napredna i moćna. Oni su genetski modifikovali njihov DNK, tako da ne stare. Oni postoje u svemiru. "Pakao" je u svemiru. Egipatski Bog Tot kaže da je Pakao na pojasu sazvežđa Orion. U Nekronomikonu (ova knjiga bazirana je na Sumerskoj/Mesopotamskoj mitologiji, iako je klasifikovana kao delo fantastike): "Kada veliki medved bude bio nisko na nebu". Kada se planete poređaju u određeni pravac, otvara se put za svemirske putnike. Ljudi uvek gledaju u nebo, očekajući ponovni povratak Bogova.
Lucifer je neverovatno jak, brilijantan i moćan. On odbija da prizna poraz. Od tada, mnogi su uvideli nedostatke i tiraniju Raja (Nibiru) i priključili se Luciferu u svojoj borbi. Satan je postao, još jednom, ekstremno moćan. Nasuprot manjim brojkama, on pobeđuje. Kao Satanisti, mi možemo da osetimo njegovu snagu. Hrišćani su slabi. Jedan Satanista vredi mnogo hrišćana.


Istina O Paklu

Ne, pakao nije plamena reka. Pakao nije unutar Zemlje, kao što su neki hrišćani pokušali da poplaše ljude. Dvadeset i pet milja ispod zemlje, mi imamo koru, litosferu. Ona je napravljena od čvrstog kamena. Neki hrišćani su ugrabili šansu, opet, delujući na neznanje, i izjavili su kako su se čuli vrisci iz rupe koja je izbušena devet milja (korespondujući sa devet kapija Pakla). Istina je za jedno, da je toplota istopila mikrofon, a na drugo je uticao pritisak. Da li si ikada plivao u dubinu, barem od dva metra? Pritisak pravi zvuk zvonjave. Da se vratim na čvrst kamen i litosferu, zvuk se prenosi molekulama vazduha. Pokušaj da dišeš kompletno zakopan u čvrstom kamenu.
Hrišćanski koncept Pakla je totalno komičan. Neki od nas, koji smo bliski sa Luciferom, smo videli Pakao. Mi smo svi imali ista iskustva. U Paklu ne postoji dan i noć u onom smilu za koji mi znamo. Pakao je sav u mraku, ali je osvetljen plavim svetlom. Luciferova prava boja je plava. Ja sam videla ljude kako sede okolo stola u baru dole, igrajući karte. Soba je bila puna dima. Ovi ljudi, već mrtvi, su mogli da puše. Pakao ima glavni grad koga mi znamo pod imenom "Pandemonium". Ovde, ima jedna velika planina, čiji je vrh skinut. Na ovoj planini je mesto gde Lucifer i Bogovi pakla prebivaju. Lucifer ima prelepu ogromnu palatu ovde. Postoje zaravni, na kojima drugi Bogovi imaju svoje palate i zamkove. Ispod, nalazi se grad. Postoje veliki amfiteatri u Paklu, za koje se kaže da su "rivali lepoti raja".
Za razliku od raja, gde se "rajski domaćin" hrani dušama, Pakao je sav u noćnim barovima, kockarnicama (koje vodi Mammon), hrani, seksu i zabavi. Ljudi su ovde sigurni. Po onome što se uči, Pakao je na drugoj planeti. Da, tamo postoje neka sumporna udubljenja, ali ovo nije razlog da se plašimo, osim ako naravno, nismo hrišćanin.
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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   18/8/2008, 10:41

ma vidim niko ne posta komentar na ovo moje :) ma joj to sam samo dobio od jednog lika...

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: Sekte   18/8/2008, 13:35

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